Martin and Buehner won't give in, Reid and Senate Demos won't either. Even our favorite Eloquent Ditherer Obama has gotten involved. Still little progress.
Republicans hope the monster national debt is so frightening even the general electorate will see need to hold firm until Dems agree to real cuts -- even with shut-down. Dems hope for shut-down and for public to blame the Repubs for it as being too extreme to justify, like they did last time -- even if the nation's finances go to hell in a handbasket.
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